Some things the data doesn’t tell us, how many people who are fully vaccinated catch covid?? How many die from the vaccine? The vaccine is a joke and a scam. I won’t ever get it. Thanks for taking the time to post this
The more people are vaccinated the more vaccinated people will still die from Covid because a small percentage of people can still die. There were 339,000 American deaths from Covid by January 1, 2021. Now we are up to 700,000 something. So you think that 2000 Vaccinated people dying compared to 369,000 unvaccinated is a big deal?
Do you think it's a big deal that the proportion of vaccinated people dying of symptomatic COVID has increased by 600% since May? If we're going to pretend that less than 1% of COVID deaths are in the vaccinated, should it not increase by 600%?
No, you did not. Being an ass about it won't convince anyone, either.
Ellen correctly points out that, by your calculations, 2000 vaccinated died /369000 total who died. That is indeed less than 1%. That there were 6x the number of vaccinated dying reflects two facts: 1, as Ellen pointed out, there are more vaccinated people, period; 2, that the people prioritised for vaccination were the most at-risk and they still are, just not as much at risk.
So, your blunt, demographic-blind calculations miss the details, where the devil resides, and means you are not comparing apples with apples.
The unvaccinated, non-immune make up over 90% of ICU and ER patients with COVID19. It is becoming a pandemic of the unvaccinated/non-immune.
Excuse my language, but what the fuck kind of basic math mental breakdown does one have to have to leave a comment like this, "Clem?"
September fully vaxxed COVID deaths are 2,376 and September all COVID deaths are currently at 33,394. You've got both the wrong denominator and the wrong numerator.
You can keep mixing in "before the vaccine was widely available" data, and even mix in "before the vaccine existed" data all you want to get to whatever number you desire, but it's not reality. Fully vaccinated people are dying at an exponentially accelerating rate, from 1% in May to 7% today. That's the facts, sorry you don't like it, keep coming at me with absolute nonsense and you'll be blocked. I don't play Vaccines 101 with fools.
You are obviously struggling to understand that for several articles I have been taking the double jabbed death rate for any given month and putting it over the total covid death rate for that month.
I'm not accustomed to interacting with stupid people, to be honest. That's how I know you're not a follower.
Unvaccinated is not non-immune. Also the death count includes causes Not FROM covid, but HAD covid. Huge difference. CDC is cooking the books at all levels to "prove" their point.
That's just not accurate and even the hospital systems and Health Departments have made public statements saying ever death that has tested positive for COVID is counted as a COVID death.
A person could get in a car accident on the way home from getting a positive test = COVID death.
Everyone entering the hospital was tested, so someone going in for hip surgery with zero symptoms dies from anesthesia reaction = COVID death.
Heart attack? Sepsis? Doesn't matter. If they test positive it is marked as a COVID death.
So your statement isn't accurate and neither is the medias.
Death FROM and death WITH are two very different things.
It's manipulation of statistics and the CDC has been doing this for along time - for example flu deaths and pneumonia have been lumped together to seem more scary to promote vaccination
Yeah. That's a no-brainer. However, good luck figuring out how many people present to hospital who had a prior infection, given the propensity of some to forgo testing. In any case, you make an irrelevant point; immune from any other means is not what the CDC is trying to determine, apropos of breakthrough infections, but specifically in vaccinated people.
The death count makes quite clear the numbers FROM and HAD. If that's your idea of cooking the books, your accountant is livin' large off of your credulity.
Some things the data doesn’t tell us, how many people who are fully vaccinated catch covid?? How many die from the vaccine? The vaccine is a joke and a scam. I won’t ever get it. Thanks for taking the time to post this
The more people are vaccinated the more vaccinated people will still die from Covid because a small percentage of people can still die. There were 339,000 American deaths from Covid by January 1, 2021. Now we are up to 700,000 something. So you think that 2000 Vaccinated people dying compared to 369,000 unvaccinated is a big deal?
Do you think it's a big deal that the proportion of vaccinated people dying of symptomatic COVID has increased by 600% since May? If we're going to pretend that less than 1% of COVID deaths are in the vaccinated, should it not increase by 600%?
Half a percent of Covid deaths are in the vaccinated. Half of 1%.
Incorrect. I just showed you that it's now over 7%. Try to keep up.
No, you did not. Being an ass about it won't convince anyone, either.
Ellen correctly points out that, by your calculations, 2000 vaccinated died /369000 total who died. That is indeed less than 1%. That there were 6x the number of vaccinated dying reflects two facts: 1, as Ellen pointed out, there are more vaccinated people, period; 2, that the people prioritised for vaccination were the most at-risk and they still are, just not as much at risk.
So, your blunt, demographic-blind calculations miss the details, where the devil resides, and means you are not comparing apples with apples.
The unvaccinated, non-immune make up over 90% of ICU and ER patients with COVID19. It is becoming a pandemic of the unvaccinated/non-immune.
https://theconversation.com/covid-the-reason-cases-are-rising-among-the-double-vaccinated-its-not-because-vaccines-arent-working-164797
Excuse my language, but what the fuck kind of basic math mental breakdown does one have to have to leave a comment like this, "Clem?"
September fully vaxxed COVID deaths are 2,376 and September all COVID deaths are currently at 33,394. You've got both the wrong denominator and the wrong numerator.
You can keep mixing in "before the vaccine was widely available" data, and even mix in "before the vaccine existed" data all you want to get to whatever number you desire, but it's not reality. Fully vaccinated people are dying at an exponentially accelerating rate, from 1% in May to 7% today. That's the facts, sorry you don't like it, keep coming at me with absolute nonsense and you'll be blocked. I don't play Vaccines 101 with fools.
“ The total fully vaccinated breakthrough death number for the whole year shot up to 2,437 at the end of August.”
That’s what you wrote. By end of August, there were 600,000 unvaccinated deaths. Your math is not good.
Sure, we’d love to have a vaccine that prevents 100% of death but this one prevents 99% or more deaths. That’s pretty amazing.
You are obviously struggling to understand that for several articles I have been taking the double jabbed death rate for any given month and putting it over the total covid death rate for that month.
I'm not accustomed to interacting with stupid people, to be honest. That's how I know you're not a follower.
Unvaccinated is not non-immune. Also the death count includes causes Not FROM covid, but HAD covid. Huge difference. CDC is cooking the books at all levels to "prove" their point.
Covid doesn’t kill people. The complications from Covid that kill people. So the CDC isn’t cooking anything.
You stated 700,000 deaths FROM COVID.
That's just not accurate and even the hospital systems and Health Departments have made public statements saying ever death that has tested positive for COVID is counted as a COVID death.
A person could get in a car accident on the way home from getting a positive test = COVID death.
Everyone entering the hospital was tested, so someone going in for hip surgery with zero symptoms dies from anesthesia reaction = COVID death.
Heart attack? Sepsis? Doesn't matter. If they test positive it is marked as a COVID death.
So your statement isn't accurate and neither is the medias.
Death FROM and death WITH are two very different things.
It's manipulation of statistics and the CDC has been doing this for along time - for example flu deaths and pneumonia have been lumped together to seem more scary to promote vaccination
Two separate categories:
1) Immunised from vaccination;
2) Immunised from prior infection.
Yeah. That's a no-brainer. However, good luck figuring out how many people present to hospital who had a prior infection, given the propensity of some to forgo testing. In any case, you make an irrelevant point; immune from any other means is not what the CDC is trying to determine, apropos of breakthrough infections, but specifically in vaccinated people.
The death count makes quite clear the numbers FROM and HAD. If that's your idea of cooking the books, your accountant is livin' large off of your credulity.